All Things Vinyl

[malsound]

For analog geeks only, very lengthy video.

One thing cross my mind from the video, is lacquer equivalent  to glass CD. ???

https://youtu.be/IBzPR_ZU1MQ

 

[colossus]

more news on gel type cleaners on your styli.  Is it really building up more residue?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdBEIH7KJgw

 

[blue_starfish]

Yes! Especially when it gets old. Mine is in the bin

 

[malsound]

Yes! Especially when it gets old. Mine is in the bin

https://www.analogplanet.com/content/time-put-away-onzow-zerodust

https://www.analogplanet.com/content/zerodust-saga-continues

Michael Freamer did a two part with close up, quite shocking ever for a non fluid  stylus cleaner advocate like me. Just hope my audio technica hold up to the test of time.

 

[malsound]

Pick your poison.

https://youtu.be/cPgBxkcbj70

 

[malsound]

https://youtu.be/783L40kDFhg

 

[titactoh]

Rediscovering Vinyl


Vinyl is like a mistress. A lot of Investment, Care and Attention and of course Maintenance even for entry levels.
The little ?diamond? can cost anywhere from $100/ to Tens of Ks.

I use to play Redbook Cds and recently with many advice from Bros. here, did I acquire the
knowledge to use a software to save my CDs to my PC and to a Thumb drive. I often play from either of these 2 media.

I bought my first TT a Technics SL-1210m5g about 20 years ago during a promotion by a company located on the outside of SLS facing Burlington Sq. that sold Technics TT.

I can?t recall what cart was used. Had it for about 4/5 years. Was not very satisfied with the sound which did not differ much if at all with my cd. As Linn Lp 12 was often lauded, I bought a used one and fitted it with a Denon DL103R. The sound was more mellow and certainly brought me confidence in vinyl. 2 years later as I hardly play vinyl which at most was no more than 24 times in a year, I sold off the Technics.

I have only a handful of LPs bought over the years.
Recently I took out some Teresa Teng LPs but wasn?t impressed with the SQ. (There have been times when I played Flamenco fever and the music just came alive.)

I tried Miles Davis Kind of Blue but it didn?t move me until I turn to "tea-time music" Los Indos Tabajaras on track Te Queiro Dijiste which at the beginning when it was soft did the sound of Vinyl became apparent and so put me on the path back to vinyl.

I am not sure if it will be a long love affair so I do not want to put too much money on this journey but I like to know how I can improve it to enjoy for the time being the perhaps weak link which is the separate phono stage a ?Marantz 7 phono amp? of course not the famous vintage but the Thai clone TS Audio PH-1. It has served me well without any problem over the years. There are 3 tubes inside.

Just like to know from Bros. here first if tube-rolling and any tweak to it will bring about not an ocean of a difference but a measurable improvement commensurate with the expense.

Or 2nd should I invest about $300/ for a better MC/MM phonostage.

Thank you.

 

[KKG@#]

Hi there, the TS Audio PH-1 is a MM only phono stage, I'm sure you are aware of this? You'll need a step up to play a MC cart. The PH-1 is a pretty decent MM phono stage, IMO. With a good MM cart you'll surprised at its performance. I had one and did not mod it, used a DL103R with Denon's AU-300LC and had good results. I regret selling it though and the AU-300LC. For the $$ they, the PH-1 and the AU-300LC, are pretty good.

For a decent MM cart, you can try the AT VM500 series (conical, elliptical or micro line stylus, which are inter-changeable) or even the VM700 series cartridges with your preference in sound type for the stylus tip.

Cheers

 

[titactoh]

Yes I forgot TS Audio PH-1 is paired with Denon's AU-300LC. Its hidden behind so forgot about it.


So any advice Bro. on upgrading this formidable tiny set?

 

[KKG@#]

Re: So any advice Bro. on upgrading this formidable tiny set?

I guess the usual - caps, resistors or what not but this can only be suggested by someone who has the relevant knowledge, I have none in this area.

Cheers

 

[titactoh]

Re: So any advice Bro. on upgrading this formidable tiny set?

I guess the usual - caps, resistors or what not but this can only be suggested by someone who has the relevant knowledge, I have none in this area.

Cheers

Thanks for earlier info.

 

[blue_starfish]

Without knowing the YOM and details of the LP12, I will make a guess that it is over 6 years old and overdue for a tune-up by a Linn technician. The LP12 is like a 1970s British sports car and need regular tune-ups otherwise the sound degrades slowly buy surely. Spend some money to get the springs tuned to get the bounce correct. The difference between a well tuned LP12 and out-of-tune LP12 is immense. This will get you more mileage than a new cartridge of phono at the start.

Any money leftover, spend it on a proper support for the LP12. If after doing these and you are still itchy, then look at a better phono or cartridge.

BTW, there is a misconception that vinyl is warm and fuzzy sounding. Proper vinyl sounds very alike to very good digital. If you are getting warm and fuzzy sound, your entire TT needs to be re-looked.

 

[titactoh]

Without knowing the YOM and details of the LP12, I will make a guess that it is over 6 years old and overdue for a tune-up by a Linn technician. The LP12 is like a 1970s British sports car and need regular tune-ups otherwise the sound degrades slowly buy surely. Spend some money to get the springs tuned to get the bounce correct. The difference between a well tuned LP12 and out-of-tune LP12 is immense. This will get you more mileage than a new cartridge of phono at the start.

Any money leftover, spend it on a proper support for the LP12. If after doing these and you are still itchy, then look at a better phono or cartridge.

BTW, there is a misconception that vinyl is warm and fuzzy sounding. Proper vinyl sounds very alike to very good digital. If you are getting warm and fuzzy sound, your entire TT needs to be re-looked.

Thank you, Bro. for the advice.

It ought to be over 6 years old. BTW how do I look for the S/N or DOM without opening the bottom?

Is there a choice of TT tuning technicians in SG.?

Normally which technician do you go to for your LP12?

And is there a ballpark fee for such a service?

Appreciate further info. Bro.

 

[blue_starfish]

Thank you, Bro. for the advice.

It ought to be over 6 years old. BTW how do I look for the S/N or DOM without opening the bottom?

Is there a choice of TT tuning technicians in SG.?

Normally which technician do you go to for your LP12?

And is there a ballpark fee for such a service?

Appreciate further info. Bro.

You can guess the age by the LP12 configuration. If your is the LP12 without power supply, it is very old. If yours has power supply, Ittok arm then is newer but above 6 years old. If yours has a Project arm, then it is fairly new.

First stop is to Global Audio. See Cheng for the price to service and upgrade to newer specs. Do an A/B with the LP12 in the to know how far apart the old and new is. Then decide if it is worth the cost to upgrade, or to buy a new mid-range TT with the same money. From the TT shops near to Global Audio.

If the price is prohibitive and all you want to do is a simple tune up, there are a few independent men you can approach to see if they are willing to do so. These men do so at their own time not as a job. I know of one, but there are others who can contribute their experience of LP12 tuners.

I am not a LP12 owner. Have never been although I came close to buying a high-spec one and have owned LP12 clones before. After careful study, I decided to give LP12 a miss because of the constant need for tuning and fussy support needed. 

 

[titactoh]

You can guess the age by the LP12 configuration. If your is the LP12 without power supply, it is very old. If yours has power supply, Ittok arm then is newer but above 6 years old. If yours has a Project arm, then it is fairly new.

First stop is to Global Audio. See Cheng for the price to service and upgrade to newer specs. Do an A/B with the LP12 in the to know how far apart the old and new is. Then decide if it is worth the cost to upgrade, or to buy a new mid-range TT with the same money. From the TT shops near to Global Audio.

If the price is prohibitive and all you want to do is a simple tune up, there are a few independent men you can approach to see if they are willing to do so. These men do so at their own time not as a job. I know of one, but there are others who can contribute their experience of LP12 tuners.

I am not a LP12 owner. Have never been although I came close to buying a high-spec one and have owned LP12 clones before. After careful study, I decided to give LP12 a miss because of the constant need for tuning and fussy support needed.

I hardly play Vinyl and as I have said earlier less that 24 times in a year. When not at play would it be advisable to remove the platter as it is very heavy and weighs down on the spring?

The previous owner mentioned he just changed to Valhalla PSU. It is single speed and I need to tap the switch often before the power comes on. It does not bother me.

Most shops/agents do not have a in-house technician as it is not economical to maintain and they often outsource but so long as the 3rd parties are used to the product it is no issue while also if the partners themselves are good at service and find time to do it would also be a comfort. Being a shop one can expect fees will reflect their operating costs.

Adrian of Memory Lane is usually filled with orders lined up for service and may take a long time. This contact of yours is he in the central area for ease of transport and does he often tune LP12 and do you have an indication of the service fee.

My arm is a LV II ittok.

Thank your advice and for sharing.

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[titactoh]

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[blue_starfish]

Titactoh, your TT is over 10 years old and in need of a major overhaul. The performance after the overhaul will be an ear-opener. If you kept it in storage with the platter and belt on, the springs would have sagged and the belt stretched. You will likely also need to change the rubber grommets. If you are lucky, a used improved top plate may be available cheap.

A very quick way to test the state of your TT is to press the spindle down and release it. It should bounce 3 times perfectly vertical. If it bounces more or with some sideways motion the suspension is in need of work. A second test will be to bang the table when the TT is playing. If the arm skips and bounces, it confirms.

I will PM you the contact of someone to call. See if he is willing to do it and how much he charges. I will not reveal his name here as he is am employee of a shop that sells rival product. If he does it, it will be purely on a personal level.

After spending on the tuning and replacing worn parts, the good news is you will have a superior product. If you do not like the sound, you can recoup by selling the TT. LP12s are easily sold used. 

 

[malsound]

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[malsound]

https://youtu.be/yc6J6ZGuwf0

 

[malsound]

https://youtu.be/tCEJbmukKss