Will you still like your hifi if it deviated from live sound?

[wusplay]

Assuming you like your setup very much. Then one day you go listen to concert and find out live is totally different.

For eg let say you like smooth sounding, you choose all the components to make your setup sound very smooth , just the way you like it. Then one day you find out that the same music is much brighter and harsh in live performance. Or maybe your setup sound very punchy, you like this type of bass very much, then later you find out that the actual instrument is not so dramatic.
So your system is not honest, cheated you  all the while, but also make you very happy for so long.Will you still like your hifi?

Or are you going to force yourself to change and listen to someting not so enjoyable  , simply because it sound closer to the real thing.

 

[Bloody Chowbotak]

Concerts sound different from one venue to another, just like the exact system will sound different in different rooms. So it depends which live performance u want to try to replicate in yr system

 

[BadEnglish]

Live - acoustic or amplified
Sitting location - close centre or cheap ticket


These 2 already told you,  how different can be from your system ;D


Addendum
I wanted to write about this confusion,  misunderstanding for the long time but no one asked or raised.
Give me sometime,  I'll write up. By today ;D

Especially for you : someone I thought never asks this kind of question.  Synergy must have given you energy 8)

 

[wusplay]

For ?non-classical? amp live, the sound can be too bright and too loud, or very little dynamic range.Home system sound better. But being in the concert among all the fan is something you can't find at home.
Classical is different obviously, and it is rare that a home system can equal a live orchestra.

I think the example in this post is not good enough for the topic i like to discuss. Nevermind. I'll start another one next time.

 

[BadEnglish]

Ha ha, no,  i wasn't prepared to write about classical music at all.  I planted to write about pop music so everyone here understand and benefit.

In fact,  I was planning to based on Susan Wong's my live stories album.  I chose it because there is video for you to compare ;D

So should I or  ;D

Or you buy audio and me coffee, we can shout and yell at each other



Addendum : Album Art Stolen from Internet

 

[BadEnglish]

Currently I'm in the bath room waiting for 15 min medicine-effect , showering one of my lady with medicated shampoo.


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[BadEnglish]

For ?non-classical? amp live, the sound can be too bright and too loud, or very little dynamic range..

There is no way to reduce dynamic range on live performance real time.  Unless ... then...

 

[BadEnglish]

I think this album is more suitable to discuss , if we were continuing  ;D

 

[BadEnglish]

...
Decades ago I was living my parents wish?I was forced to learn piano for years (although I hated the lessons coz teacher whack my knuckle when i made big blunders [emoji12]). Looking back?it was a good life experience?and the tonality & timbre of the piano is burned into my memory. Of course it was the normal house piano not grand piano.
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You lucky lar.
My father sold ice-cream, my mother sold fried foods opposite of a fully booked 12 moths a years ( 8 tracks back then ) studio. After school I had to deliver fried bee-hoon, fried mee, ice-cream to studio room. And I saw grand piano so many many times  ;D

 

[Ed.YANG]

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"Mmmm... Sausage! Get ready to jump for that sausage, that comes with braised quail eggs!"

 

[BadEnglish]

"Mmmm... Sausage! Get ready to jump for that sausage, that comes with braised quail eggs!"

You meant a toothpick with 2 chicken eggs

 

[malsound]

Assuming you like your setup very much. Then one day you go listen to concert and find out live is totally different.

For eg let say you like smooth sounding, you choose all the components to make your setup sound very smooth , just the way you like it. Then one day you find out that the same music is much brighter and harsh in live performance. Or maybe your setup sound very punchy, you like this type of bass very much, then later you find out that the actual instrument is not so dramatic.
So your system is not honest, cheated you  all the while, but also make you very happy for so long.Will you still like your hifi?

Or are you going to force yourself to change and listen to someting not so enjoyable  , simply because it sound closer to the real thing.

I like every pair of my speakers for the different virtue they offer.

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[Bloody Chowbotak]

Ha ha, no,  i wasn't prepared to write about classical music at all.  I planted to write about pop music so everyone here understand and benefit.

In fact,  I was planning to based on Susan Wong's my live stories album.  I chose it because there is video for you to compare ;D

So should I or  ;D

Or you buy audio and me coffee, we can shout and yell at each other



Addendum : Album Art Stolen from Internet

I have this bluray for some years aldy but haven't watch  ;D

 

[Joamonte]

When the music you listen to able to make you enjoy and forgot everything else ,  is it live sound or not live sound wasn?t that important IMO?.

I only know that a good live performance will let you forgot about time pass by ; just like watching a good movie , 2 hours pass by and you only feel like just pass by 10mins, a bad movie even 1/2 an hour u feel like 3 hours ?..

If your system play a song make you feel like  ?how come this song so fast finish ? , it is a good system

If your system play a song just make you feel ?how come this song so long ? that is it not a good system

The same Principal apply to live sound  ,  not all live sound is good.

 

[BadEnglish]

No wonder I fall asleep every time I listen ;D

 

[Joamonte]

No wonder I fall asleep every time I listen ;D

 



When my system something?s went wrong make me feel want to sleep , I will go to bed to sleep instead of seating in-front of hifi, because my bed is more comfortable than my sofa

;D

 

[BadEnglish]

I have been sleeping on sofa a few nights watching 2022 ;D

 

[BadEnglish]

When I mentioned sitting place :

Photo : Stolen from Internet

The session was unplugged for the most of the session and plugged electronic bass guitar in a few songs 
If you happened to watch , you would notice how much the drummer trying to control the loudness 

On my dictionary : It's LIVE  ;D


Addendum : I have never been to Ronnie's place. So I steal the photo 8)

 

[Ed.YANG]

I like every pair of my speakers for the different virtue they offer.
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ooooh... yeah... those drivers!!!
kevlar cone, black cone, beige cone...etc...
it'll be interesting to see some low frequency bass excursion action on them!!!

 

[wusplay]

Below is not my own opinion, i Just copy from Stereophile:
No matter how good your system is, there is no way to ever faithfully recreate the sound of the original performance.
When you create a sound, what gets propagated and what we hear is more than just the sound that the instrument made.
We are taught that a sound at a given frequency creates more sounds at frequencies that are multiples of the frequency of the first sound, and overtones get created that may actually differ from instrument to instrument.
So, a 100Hz tone would generate "fundamental" harmonics at 200, 400, 800, 1600, and so-on Hz.
The order for harmonics is that the actual tone is the first harmonic, and the second harmonic becomes the first overtone.
So, what makes it to the microphone is more than what you'd think was the original tone, and is one reason people think that sound reproduction above 20,000Hz may be important...
Overtones are kind of like harmonics that do not occur at such evenly distributed frequencies.
To quote Wikipedia: "Not all overtones are necessarily harmonics, or exact multiples of the fundamental frequency. Some musical instruments produce overtones that are sharper or flatter than harmonics. The sharpness or flatness of their overtones is one of the elements that contributes to their sound; this also has the effect of making their waveforms not perfectly periodic."
When we take what had been the original sound heard by the microphone during the recording and try to recreate that event on our home systems, we start creating harmonics of harmonics and harmonics of overtones that were never intended to be part of the sound.
Your speaker reproduces the original signal, but is also responsible for creating extra harmonics of the original harmonics and overtones that never existed!
(Say you have a flute note that created an original note a 400Hz. You'd have harmonics at 800, 1600, 3200, 6400, 12,800Hz; and overtones at odd intervals depending on the note or how hard the note was blown. Hypothetically, say 430Hz for just one of the overtones.
OK, now you want your speakers to create this melange of sounds, but when your speaker creates those tones, you create more harmonics and overtones!
So, that hypothetical 430Hx overtone now creates harmonics at the typical ratio of tone to harmonics, and those sounds were NEVER part of the original sound.)
Your speaker doesn't know that they were just harmonics, and now you get harmonics of harmonics!
No matter how good your system is, all it will ever do is create falsely exaggerated harmonic textures and add harmonics of overtones that are totally artifactual.